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« Reply #180 on Sept 12, 2007, 8:56am »
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FOS Idle Thoughts for distracting everyone with this bullshit when it is absolutely clearly spelled out how the majority vote works in Naf's rule post. I also think he may should get a mod sanction for violation of rule 4, and may be trying to bait others into similar sanctions.

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« Reply #181 on Sept 12, 2007, 8:58am »
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Sept 12, 2007, 8:54am, Idle Thoughts wrote:


What the guay? I'm just asking a simple question and would just appreciate it if a mod would answer instead of players. That's all.

All I'm asking is does town need to have 15 votes against someone for a lynch (and thus end the day automatically--otherwise there is no lynch) or if it means that A majority (and not THE majority) of players is needed for a lynch.


Did you even read the link I provided? NAF already said it takes 15.
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« Reply #182 on Sept 12, 2007, 8:59am »
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I'm not a mod, but I did have a hand in forming the rules.

The day ends in one of two ways:

1) a player hits a majority of votes, meaning 1 greater than half the living players. As soon as this happens, the game moves to twilight, where you may still talk, but votes and unvotes are meaningless. It'll remain twilight until a mod arrives to post the lynch scene and move to night.

2) the deadline comes and goes. If this happens, there will be no lynch, and the game moves straight to night.

This is the standard for mafia games on most sites, if you've played elsewhere. That clear everything up?
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« Reply #183 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:00am »
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You know what? f u .c k you to all those who are f u c k .i n g treating me like I should KNOW and UNDERSTAND what it means. I guess I'm just stupid, huh? :rolleyes:

S.hit, I ask a f.ucking question and get told "My God, are you being deliberatly obtuse?" and "a mod sanction"? Well EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE me if I don't understand a f.ucking rule and am asking for some clarification. :rolleye: I didn't know you were all blessed with a perfect understanding of everything.

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« Reply #184 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:00am »
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Idle, will you kindly go look up "majority" in the dictionary?
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« Reply #185 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:02am »
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Whoops, didn't see the breakdown before my previous post. Sorry.

But Idle, I like how you switched from big letters to multiple ones. :)
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« Reply #186 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:03am »
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Yeah, I thought that'd be a nice transistion, pygmy. :)
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« Reply #187 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:03am »
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I can't spell worth sh.it either. :x
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« Reply #188 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:11am »
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Also, Idle attacked me during night 1.
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« Reply #189 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:12am »
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Gosh...6 darned pages already. :o

Did a quick read through,not much too add really.Cept I cant get the damned insert quote function to work.

I am going out tonight,gotta work all day tomorrow and have company arriving Thurs and staying til Sat.I wont be participating an awful lot during that time span,but will check in every day.

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« Reply #190 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:13am »
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What do you mean "attacked"?
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« Reply #191 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:13am »
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It was a joke for those who played m4... n/m
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« Reply #192 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:14am »
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From the wikipedia article on Majority:


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The definition of "majority vote" can differ, however from one parliamentary authority to another. Robert's Rules of Order, (abbreviated RONR) defines a majority as being more than one half of the votes cast including votes cast for an ineligible candidate, or improper choice (e.g. a vote of "maybe" on a yes or no vote); these votes referred to as "illegal votes cast by legal voters[1]." The Standard Code of Parliamentary Procedure (abbreviated TSC) defines a majority as being more than half of the "legal" votes cast [2].

For example, assume that votes are cast for three people for an office, Mr. A, Ms. B, and Wimpy the Gerbil (who is ineligible). The vote totals are:

Total votes cast - 20
Mr. A - 9 votes
Ms. B - 8 votes
Wimpy the Gerbil (ineligible) - 3 votes
Using the definition in RONR, no candidate has a majority and no candidate is elected; 20 votes cast, a majority (in whole numbers) is 11 and no candidate received 11. Using the definition in TSC, Mr. A is elected; 20 cast, 3 illegal, 17 legal, with a majority of legal votes cast (in whole numbers) being 9.


That's what I'm asking. If it's 15 on one (and thus automatic) or no lynch..........or just whoever has a majority.
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« Reply #193 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:14am »
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Make that 7.
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« Reply #194 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:16am »
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Oh dear lord...

Idle, go back AND READ THE LINK I PROVIDED. NAF has already said it TAKES 15 on day 1. JSexton has spelled it out to you as well. Now I have a reason for my initial random vote.
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« Reply #195 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:17am »
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Sept 12, 2007, 9:11am, zuma wrote:
Also, Idle attacked me during night 1.


That made me laugh. But, to clarify, please link to the post next time.

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« Reply #196 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:18am »
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Sept 12, 2007, 9:14am, Idle Thoughts wrote:
From the wikipedia article on Majority:


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The definition of "majority vote" can differ, however from one parliamentary authority to another. Robert's Rules of Order, (abbreviated RONR) defines a majority as being more than one half of the votes cast including votes cast for an ineligible candidate, or improper choice (e.g. a vote of "maybe" on a yes or no vote); these votes referred to as "illegal votes cast by legal voters[1]." The Standard Code of Parliamentary Procedure (abbreviated TSC) defines a majority as being more than half of the "legal" votes cast [2].

For example, assume that votes are cast for three people for an office, Mr. A, Ms. B, and Wimpy the Gerbil (who is ineligible). The vote totals are:

Total votes cast - 20
Mr. A - 9 votes
Ms. B - 8 votes
Wimpy the Gerbil (ineligible) - 3 votes
Using the definition in RONR, no candidate has a majority and no candidate is elected; 20 votes cast, a majority (in whole numbers) is 11 and no candidate received 11. Using the definition in TSC, Mr. A is elected; 20 cast, 3 illegal, 17 legal, with a majority of legal votes cast (in whole numbers) being 9.


That's what I'm asking. If it's 15 on one (and thus automatic) or no lynch..........or just whoever has a majority.


We're using 15 on one. Which NAF has stated, and been quoted, Kat has stated, and been quoted.

Vote Idle, for being a jackass.
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« Reply #197 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:18am »
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I don't see how that's a reason or why mtgman says I deserve a mod sanction just for not understanding a rule fully. Yeah, let's lynch everyone who needs clarifcation with the rules.
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« Reply #198 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:20am »
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Ok so we have an answer, and idle, does that idle thing again :). So all we have to do is get together with our 15 bestist friends and we're done here. For today.
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Sept 12, 2007, 9:18am, Rugger, Pygmy wrote:

Sept 12, 2007, 9:14am, Idle Thoughts wrote:
From the wikipedia article on Majority:



That's what I'm asking. If it's 15 on one (and thus automatic) or no lynch..........or just whoever has a majority.


We're using 15 on one. Which NAF has stated, and been quoted, Kat has stated, and been quoted.

Vote Idle, for being a jackass.


So now, on top of being obtuse and worthy of a mod sanction I'm also a jackass for simply asking a mod come in themselves and clarify the rules? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #200 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:25am »
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Shall I quote the wiki link on "jackass"?
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« Reply #201 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:29am »
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Idle, I was as confused as you just without the fonty goodness.

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« Reply #202 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:36am »
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Sweet baby Jaysus people!

200 farking posts in less than 25 hours?!? A vote, a half vote, and an FOS on me already? From that one post?

It will be a miracle if I can manage to keep up, and not fail my certification exams. If this pace keeps up I might need to get a sub. Dang.

Anyways, my win condition does not state that I be the last one alive. I know that might come as a shock to some of you. As a matter of fact my win condition is pretty confound vanilla. What I was trying to convey, is that town has no idea who they're up against. I'm positive that I have fellow townies, mostly because if I were the only one, this would be the strangest game of mafia ever. However, not knowing how many scum there are (I know this is the norm), how many scum teams there might be (if more than one), and whether or not there are "Great Pumpkin Chia Reaver" roles makes me a bit nervous.

Maybe it's because I was a mason last game, and playing alone again feels odd, but I don't think that's it. Maybe it's because I've never played more than a few hours as a vanilla townie before. Whatever it is, I feel like I'm backed in a corner distrusting everyone. Think Dotchan in the last game, but not nearly as shiny or cute. That's my reasoning for the "every man for himself" comment, in case anybody's interested.

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« Reply #203 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:39am »
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1) It takes 15 votes to lynch.
2) There is no "countdown" after 15 votes is reached.
3) There no lynch if 15 votes is not reached.
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« Reply #204 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:40am »
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I get what you're saying Idle, I was in the same boat of thinking that 15 votes ended the day right then and there, but otherwise whoever had the most votes at the end of the day got lynched otherwise. :P

Semi related point 2, I don't know that the plan suggested by Blaster (or would you rather Spiff? :D) is a good one. I can see all sorts of chaos erupting if we got down to two people and then there was a sudden role claim. It would easily fall apart, especiailly with a little help from the scum, and result in a no-lynch.
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« Reply #205 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:44am »
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Thank you, Kat. That's all I needed.

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« Reply #206 on Sept 12, 2007, 9:52am »
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Holy Crap, I start typing a post, get distracted by work stuff for less than an hour and suddenly my post is half irrelevant becasue there is 2 extra pages betwenn then and now. :o

Will teach me to check what has happened if I get called away halfway through typing a post :P
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Thank you, Kat. That's all I needed.

unvote Roosh
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for thinking that someone asking for a rules clarication is a good reason to vote for them. ::) ::)





Well, considering asking for a rules clarification outside of PMs is against the rules...
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« Reply #208 on Sept 12, 2007, 10:01am »
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Jesus H. Christ people. This game is supposed to be my escape. My haven. My "happy place". I'm tempted to not try and read anything until almost Night. Holy gos se.
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« Reply #209 on Sept 12, 2007, 10:02am »
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And now that I'm no longer typing with one finger and a sister having an emotional crisis* on the other end of the phone: Sorry I didn't get here sooner.

I think I worried so much over getting the insta-lynch concept across that I didn't consider much that there are different concepts of "majority rules" out there. Sorry.

Everyone is now required to be nice to each other or no alcohol on Night 2. ;D

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