How noticeable is the reconstruction work in Dili?
Urban building reconstruction is hardly noticeable at all. Several
families have said they are still waiting for their house to be rebuilt
and sometimes that just means replacing roof tiles. Reconstruction
is sporadic, and is happening where there is trade, in the hotel industry,
and especially where embassies are located. Individual cases of reconstruction
are rare. These are waiting for support from UNTAET, but it seems
that there isn't much money available. Perhaps that is because financial
resources are being channelled to other areas.
But there is a lot of foreign investment…
This is a crisis situation in which make-money-fast-and-run industries
are cashing in. A lot of people are going to make a lot of money
over the next three years. It is a capital transfer economy.
When you were there doing research, what were relations like between
the Australians and Portuguese?
There was tension. The Portuguese were colonisers, but the Timorese
are friendly towards them and the Australians cannot understand that.
On the part of the Australians, on the other hand, there are economic interests,
and a feeling of opportunism that is reflected in the Portuguese. Furthermore,
there is tension because their cultures are very different:
one, Latin and Catholic, the other, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant and more
pragmatic.
Do the Timorese realise that the Australians do not understand them?
I think so. They feel it, rather than actually realise it.
The Portuguese are more aware of it than the Timorese themselves.
Can you give an example?
A police officer, for example, holds a very prestigious position in
Timor. The Timorese explained to me that the police are very strict and
that is how it should be. They like very hierarchical authority.
How do they feel towards the Indonesians?
The foreigners talk about them more than the Timorese.
What do you mean by the Tim-Tim generation, which you refer to in
your field diary, which is on Internet?
They are the people who were born or educated in Timor-Timur (as Timor
was called during Indonesian occupation). … It is the generation
of people whose parents were brought up in a Portuguese culture, but who,
themselves, were educated according to Indonesian culture, and who now
have to adapt happily to an Anglophone culture. It is a generation
that is being sacrificed, and it is also a broken generation, because it
saw its life plans interrupted. They were born in Timor, but the
place in which they were born and brought up has now disappeared.
This is a terrible shock for them.
There is also the question of education, and language.
Exactly. All the schooling completed under Indonesian occupation
is now worthless. The parents of these young people are the first
to admit it and they do so in front of their children. The fact that
UNTAET is repeating the comments about their courses being worthless does
not help matters. Furthermore, the language they used to speak has been
devalued.
Is the adoption of Portuguese more rooted in this Tim-Tim generation?
I did not see any strong opposition to Portuguese language. I
think the older Timorese have been helping to raise awareness on that score
and resistance to it has diminished. They would like to speak Portuguese
and to go to Portugal. Going to Portugal is a dream for them.
In your work you regard Timor as one of the countries with the widest
variety of foreign nationalities, and with the highest rate of different
nationalities per sq. km. How does this multicultural population
coexist?
It coexists like this: there is a post-colonial political situation;
there is economic neo-colonialism, basically due to the presence of the
Australians and the UN salaries system. Socially, there are many
cases of an apartheid or subtle racism. There are few hybrid places
- the beach, the church, and the houses where NGOs are working.
How do the Timorese regard the boss-employee relationship?
The answer depends a lot on the job in question, but there is resentment,
especially among the Tim-Tim generation, when it comes to the unskilled/semi-skilled
jobs to which they have access. Many of them would like to work in
UNTAET, but not in those (unskilled) jobs.
Do the bosses have reason to complain about Timorese employees?
There is some tension. Although they believe that the Timorese
are able to learn, they complain that they are not very hard workers.
But you have to understand that a tacit pattern of not working very hard
has existed for over 25 years of Indonesian occupation. It is difficult
to change that attitude overnight. Also, the foreigners have had
some problems in working with Timorese, mainly because of the man-woman
relationship. They don't like taking orders from a woman, and if
the woman is younger than they are, the situation is even worse.
They say "yes", but then they don't do it.
How can this problem be overcome?
The precise nature of the problem first has to be identified, and then
the right solution sought. For example, if they won't accept orders
from the nurse in charge, then the orders have to start being signed by
not just the head nurse, but also by the hospital director, who is a man.
That way, there is no problem. To change the situation, local mediators
are needed, but I don't think the UN is very concerned about it.
How are the Timorese who are returned to the territory regarded?
With a combination of envy and resentment: they escaped from all the
violence, had better opportunities in life, and returned with better chances
of finding a place. There is also resentment because they did not
help to achieve Timor's independence and liberation.
So, the fact that the political class is now being made up from these
returnees could be a negative factor?
They [those who remained in Timor] think so. They think that
now there is no place in the country for those who actually led the country
to independence.
An Aggressive Society
How would you describe Timorese society?
It would not be untrue to say that it is a sick society in psycho-sociological
terms. Aggressiveness is transferred to the domestic context, between men
and women, between man and wife. … There are some obvious indications of
this, like the tension between foreign men, whom I describe as being temporarily
alone, and the local women who are not accessible - getting close is dangerous.
I have also had confirmation of this from witnesses and CivPol reports.
There are quite a lot of crimes (murders) of passion, many of which result
from breaches of promise between families. I also learned that there are
many cases of men beating their wives because the latter have been raped
by Indonesians. One of my informers, a 24-year-old divorcee with
a son, told me that she was tortured every day at home by her husband.
She showed me the marks left by electric shocks and by boiling water.
Her husband did it because he thought she was too extrovert. Apparently,
this had also happened to many of her friends.
Do the NGOs know about these problems?
At a meeting with NGOs I raised this issue and the question of Aids.
With regards Aids, they told me they were doing nothing because the Bishop
had told them not to. The Medicos do Mundo (doctors of the world)
have huge stocks of condoms stored away. One doctor told me that,
at a meeting with members of the Falintil, she had referred to the possibility
of psychiatric support for those suffering from trauma caused by the war,
but a Falintil commander had responded that support was not necessary because
no one there had any traumas.